Wednesday, June 9, 2010

F.O.R.M. Poetry::::::::"Rictameter"

.O.R.M.- The Rictameter Views: 59
Jun 01, 2010 8:43 am F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter #

Jack Huber
The Rictameter

There seems to be no end to syllabic-based formats. The rictameter was invented by two cousins, Jason D. Wilkins and Richard W. Lunsford, Jr., who had started their own poetry club. The “Brotherhood of the Amarantos Mystery” was inspired in 1989 by the dark but stirring movie, “Dead Poets Society,” starring Robin Williams. In their weekly “Brotherhood” meetings, Jason and Richard held private poetry contests and experimented with new poetic formats, eventually coming up with the “rictameter,” which Jason apparently named after Richard. Since then, the rictameter has gained in popularity, with several websites now dedicated to or highlighting this form.

The syllable counts are specific in the rictameter. A single stanza begins and ends with the same two-syllable word, and in between the syllable count rises, then falls, by two syllables per line, with line five being the center and longest line. Thus the lines have the syllable count, 2-4-6-8-10-8-6-4-2, for a total of 50 syllables.

As with most other fixed-syllable forms, there is no meter nor rhyming required, and no limitation as to subject matter. Rictameter variations do exist, such as multiple stanzas, allowing for storytelling, and relaxing the strict number of syllables required in each line by plus or minus one.

Example:

Idyllic

Quiet
shouts idyllic
in this pastoral scene-
though blackbirds pierce the perfect calm
with echoed intermissions, forgiven.
Am I awake, I ask the mare
as she feeds, or am I
hungering for
quiet?



Copyright © 2010 by Jack Huber



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Jun 01, 2010 10:31 am re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter #

Diane Tegarden Jack,
your poem reminds me of "Alice in Wonderland" although I can't imagine why. There aren't horses or blackbirds in that story, but the sense of "fantasy" came to me while reading the poem when you were speaking to the mare.

Thank you for this new form, I shall attempt to write one later in the week.

Merry Meet and Merry Part and Merry Meet Again,
Diane T. and tree family

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Jun 01, 2010 2:51 pm re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - The Changeling #

Maya Mahant The Changeling

The brook
twinkle toed, sparkling
with sprinkled stardust, flirting
coquettishly with the blue skies.
Effervescent exulting, misty spume
tangos with boulders dark handsome,
before plunging crashing
down the ravine,
the brook?


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Jun 01, 2010 6:53 pm re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - The Changeling #

Rampyari Walia

Nice poem Maya, reminded me of Tennyson´s poem

Another interesting form and poem from you Jack, Here is my attempt. (You know I never practiced form (other than quatrains unitl I joined htis forum). So thanks for teaching us

Love
This feeling
Yearning of all beings
So beautiful in experience, but fleeting
It rejuvenates, uplifts, gives new meaning to living
Yet how many of us have truly experienced the delight
Of love that ever gives, expecting no returns
Unconditional love, that will linger on
Enrapturing senses and soul
Making existence
Worthwhile


Rampyari Walia







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Jun 01, 2010 9:07 pm re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - The Changeling #

Jack Huber Thanks for posting your very nice poems, Maya and Rampyari.

The rictameter should have the syllable counts, 2-4-6-8-10-8-6-4-2 (each corresponding with a line), for a total of 50 syllables.

Maya's is close, just lines 2 and 3 are off. They are 5 and 7 syllables, respectively. Also, I think I would change the last two or three lines so that "the brook?" isn't a question at the end. Make "the brook" simply the end of your sentence.

Ramyari, it appears you have used word counts instead of syllable counts, and your poem doesn't begin and end with the same 2 syllables. There are some forms in which the writer can use either word or syllable counts to conform, but unfortunately this isn't one of those.

Hope this helps.

Jack




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Jun 02, 2010 12:04 am re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - The Changeling #

Maya Mahant Rampyari, you with your poem had me introspect, whether it is nature you write about or human emotions your poems enchant, thank you.

And thank you for liking what I wrote, you are indeed very kind.

Jack, do you ever think I will get is right? I am indebted to you. Thank you ever so much.

Changeling

The brook
twinkle toed, sparkled
with sprinkled stardust, flirted
coquettishly with the blue skies.
Effervescent exulting, misty spume
tangos with boulders dark handsome,
before plunging crashing
down the ravine,
the brook.


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Jun 02, 2010 10:37 am re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - The Changeling #

Jack Huber Maya,

Lines 2 and 3 are still one syllable too long. Here's a suggestion:

The brook, (2)
twinkle-toed, charged (4)
with light stardust, flirted (6)
coquettishly with azure skies. (8)

Jack




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Jun 02, 2010 11:43 am re: re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - The Changeling #

Rampyari Walia Thanks for your feedback Jack,

I goofed this time, totally forgot the syllable requirement and used word count instead of syllable. Will try and redo it. But was still fun to write a little poem early Tues morning.Thanks for your patience

rampyari


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Jun 02, 2010 1:44 pm re: re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - The Changeling #

Maya Mahant Jack your version is perfect. Thank you for sending me the last three lines in PM

The Brook

The brook,
twinkle-toed, charged
with light stardust, flirted
coquettishly with azure skies.
Effervescent exulting, misty spume
tangos with boulders dark handsome,
before plunging into
the deep gorge and
the brook.


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Jun 02, 2010 3:00 pm re: re: re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - Rampyari #

Jack Huber No worries, Rampyari. I thought something like was the case. Your poem is still a worthwhile one; it just isn't a rictameter. Perhaps it a Rampyarial Stanza...

Jack


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Jun 02, 2010 3:02 pm re: re: re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - Maya #

Jack Huber Thanks for the mention, Maya, but your original wasn't far off the mark. Very well done.

Jack


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Jun 02, 2010 7:33 pm F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - Maya #

Stanley Shiel Maya, I like your Changeling...


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Jun 03, 2010 12:06 am re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - Maya #

Rampyari Walia Inspired by Maya´s efforts and the wonderful Rictameter, I thought of coreecting my attempt to conform to the form.

Hwever as I started ont eh message board my thoughts started wandering far from the rictameter into a different dimension and here is what emerged(defintiely not a rictameter). Do I make any sense?

Random Thoughts

Love
This feeling
Yearning of all beings
So beautiful in experience, but fleeting
It rejuvenates, uplifts, gives new meaning to living
Yet how many of us have truly experienced the delight
Of love that ever gives, expecting no returns
Unconditional love, that will linger on
Enrapturing senses and soul
Making existence
Worthwhile


Worthwhile
Is lliving
When life has purpose
Reaching out in thoughts, actions fulfilling
Hopes of many, needs of needy, dreams of a few
When life is spent giving freely, knowledge , love
Enriching many others, yet feeling enriched
Being learned , yet yearning,
Ever seeking,
More…

More,
Actions create,
Ever new re-actions
Setting in motion, with helpful constellations
This law Universal, karmic reactions shaping destiny
Leading to destinations beyond imagination, so we envision, beyond vision
And sometimes, seek to unravel those mystical mysteries
Which take us beyond duality into reality
Liberating us and awakening
Lasting peace
Eternally…



Rampyari Walia


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Jun 03, 2010 12:56 am re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter #

Manohar Bhatia Jack,
This one I like it.Here is my attempt::::::::::::

FILMS.

Bollywood
or the Hollywood
its pure entertainment
where talented actors perform
in exciting locales on mysterious
storylines,humor,tragedy,
of the bravely made films
for the audience
clappings!

Manohar Bhatia

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Jun 03, 2010 3:19 am re: re: F.O.R.M.- The Rictameter - Maya #

Maya Mahant Rampyari,

In 'Random Thoughts' the flow of thoughts from Love as it progresses and culminating in peace Eternally is just awesome.

Maya

Tuesday, June 1, 2010

Monday Poem:::::::::::::: "Change"

am Monday Poem:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Change" #

Manohar Bhatia ________ "Change"_________

Change is the change
of identity on facebook,
where you are only on cookbook!

Change is the difference
of doing business in East than West
where crony capitalism is best!

Change is the currency
of notes,bills, coins,
where human capital also joins!

Change is the attitude
of people towards sexuality
where love can be a casuality!

Change is a human nature
for man & woman in relationship
where each struggles for partnership!

Change is the transformation
of parties in hues of politics
where power of money is game of ethics!

Change is the merging
a town of two border states
where upmanship was at stake!

Change is the struggle
for freedom from orthodoxy
where man is buried in methodology!

Change is a change of rule
from one nation to another
where greed and power gather!

Change is a shift
in climate from hot or cold
where Mother Nature acts bold!

Change is a plan
for IPL team for surprise win
where everyone will grin!

Change is a twist
of story in fiction novel
where readers would marvel!

Change is in the thinking
of person from poverty to affluence
where discomfort & comfort confluence!

Change is a change
from one change to another change
where only change is name of change!

---The End---
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All rights are reserved.

Manohar Bhatia





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May 03, 2010 8:36 am re: Monday Poem:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Change" #

Diane Tegarden Manohar,
changes are sometimes good and sometimes unwelcome, but are all an integral part of life, as you have pointed out.

You have given us much to ponder,
Diane T.



Energetically, Diane Tegarden
"Getting OUT of Limbo-A Self Help Divorce Book for Women";"Light Through
Shuttered Window- A Compendium of my Poetry";"Anti-Vigilante and The
Rips in Time"- available at www.firewalkerpublications.com and www.Amazon.com


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May 03, 2010 12:51 pm re: Monday Poem:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Change" #

Jack Huber This is a little different use of the word, "change," Manohar, but with good results.

Jack


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May 03, 2010 9:13 pm re: Monday Poem:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Change" #

Diane Stephenson Manohar:

An innovative way to think about change.

Diane


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May 04, 2010 1:08 am re: Monday Poem:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Change" #

Maya Mahant Manohar,

Change is Manohar personified.... yet it has your signature.

Maya


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May 04, 2010 3:37 am re: re: Monday Poem:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Change" #

Deb..... Always SMILING! Manohar,

I loved the way you used the theme change and explained it so poetically. :0)


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May 04, 2010 11:32 am re: re: re: Monday Poem:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Change" #

Ayub Bangroo
Manohar,
Change is the only thing that does not change.
A poem written in your own typical style which is full of concern,ideas,realism,as always,asking the reader to look at the things from a different(changed)angle.

Ayub


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May 05, 2010 12:43 am re: re: re: re: Monday Poem:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Change" #

Manohar Bhatia Hi,
I want to thank each of.....Diane.T.,Jack, Diane.S., Maya, Deb, and Ayub for yor valuable comments.
Manohar Bhatia

Poetry F.O.R.M.:::::::::::: "Fibonacci"

F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci Views: 112
May 10, 2010 9:33 pm F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Jack Huber Fibonacci (aka Fib Poetry)

The Fib, or Fibonacci poetry, is based upon a numerical sequence named for a twelfth century mathematician, Leonardo Fibonacci. Though Fibonacci did not invent the sequence, he made it popular in his book, “Liber Abaci” (“Book of Abacus” or “Book of Calculation”), published in 1202. The sequence begins with 0 and 1, and each subsequent number in the sequence is the sum of the previous two. Thus, the first few members of the list are 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89 and so on. For example, to figure the next number in the sequence after 5, you would add 5 and the previous number, 3, to get 8. Then, 8 and 5 is the next number, 13.

Poets throughout history have utilized interesting sequences in their poetic forms, and for centuries they have used the Fibonacci sequence as a guide for haiku-like poems. The numeric values typically represent either the number of syllables or words and usually is limited to just the first six members of the sequence beginning with 1.

Like Fibonacci, who made the sequence well-known but was not its inventor, poet and screenwriter Gregory K. Pincus made the “Fib” popular in 2006 by posting in his blog an explanation and an invitation to his blog fans to write and post them online. The Fib was briefly a web phenomenon and even today there are several websites dedicated to it.

As mentioned, the each line in a Fibonacci poem corresponds to its place in the Fibonacci sequence (without counting the initial 0), the quantity of which determines the number of syllables or words in that line. Most Fibs, however, are just six lines and utilize syllable counts, in the succession 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8 . Like most syllable-based formats, there are no rhyme or meter requirements

Examples:

Spring Orchid

Wild,
spring
orchid,
eccentric
in its choice of bed,
seems content in its arrangement.


Before the Mast

Sail,
wind,
first dogwatch,
then, before the mast,
we let ourselves be cast away.


Copyright © 2010 by Jack Huber



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May 10, 2010 10:03 pm re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Diane Tegarden Interesting, and I ain't lyin'!

Energetically, Diane Tegarden
"Getting OUT of Limbo-A Self Help Divorce Book for Women";"Light Through
Shuttered Window- A Compendium of my Poetry";"Anti-Vigilante and The
Rips in Time"- available at www.firewalkerpublications.com and www.Amazon.com


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May 11, 2010 12:03 am re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Rampyari Walia Very itnerestign gorm Jack, thanks for teaching us so patiently. Here is my attempt , does it qualify?



Morning Glory

Lillies
Jasmine,
Fragrant, White
Chrysanthemums, in colors so bright
Roses, Camellias, California poppies, white daisies and marigolds
Lit by the rays of the morning sun, my garden a kaleidoscope unfolds
Hummingbirds, and butterflies, chirping birds hovering on trees,
warm my heart and I wish to dance in the refreshing morning breeze



Rampyari Walia



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May 11, 2010 3:41 am re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Pushpa Moorjani Loud
Noise
Around
Deafening!
Disturbs the silence
Limits concentration of mind
Kindly could you return my solitude back to me?

(c)Pushpee

Thank you so much Jack :))


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May 11, 2010 3:58 am re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Rampyari Walia Hi Jack,



here si my revised version, I tried putting linesin bold font

Morning Glory



Lillies
Jasmine,
Fragrant, White
Chrysanthemums, in colors so bright
Roses, Camellias, California poppies,
white daisies and marigolds
Lit by the rays of the morning sun,
my garden a kaleidoscope unfolds
Hummingbirds, and butterflies,
chirping birds hovering on trees,
warm my heart and I wish to dance,
in the refreshing morning breeze
Dancing in tune to the rustle of leaves,
As sunrbeams dance on rippling waves,,
attuned to the throbbing universe,
I dream on forgetting my existence,
beholding through some invisible telescope,
a myriad enchanting rainbows

Rampyari Walia




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May 11, 2010 9:30 am re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Jack Huber Rampyari, at first I though that your syllable counts were off, until I realized that you are using words to correlate to the sequence rather than syllables, which is perfectly acceptible. Because of the longer lines, I might be tempted to add blank lines in between your sequenced lines:

Lillies

Jasmine,

Fragrant, White

Chrysanthemums, in colors so bright

Roses, Camellias, California poppies, white daisies and marigolds

Lit by the rays of the morning sun, my garden a kaleidoscope unfolds

Hummingbirds, and butterflies, chirping birds hovering on trees, warm my heart and I wish to dance in the refreshing morning breeze


But, it's not a requirement. Nicely written,

Jack


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May 11, 2010 9:32 am re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Jack Huber A very nice Fib, Pushpa. I like it.

Jack


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May 11, 2010 9:37 am re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Jack Huber You word counts appear correct. Again, I think I would add blank lines:

Lillies

Jasmine,

Fragrant, White

Chrysanthemums, in colors so bright

Roses, Camellias, California poppies, white daisies and marigolds

Lit by the rays of the morning sun, my garden a kaleidoscope unfolds

Hummingbirds, and butterflies, chirping birds hovering on trees, warm my heart and I wish to dance, in the refreshing morning breeze

Dancing in tune to the rustle of leaves, as sunrbeams dance on rippling waves, attuned to the throbbing universe, I dream on forgetting my existence, beholding through some invisible telescope, a myriad enchanting rainbows


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May 11, 2010 10:24 am re: re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Rampyari Walia Thanks so much jack,

This was quite a fun form and a v good learnign excercise. I ahve realized once more learngn is so much fun, forge tteh outcome

rampyari


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May 12, 2010 12:51 am re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Manohar Bhatia Hi Jack,
I always love these shorter F.O.R.M.s and Fibonacci has caught my eye.Well Jack, I am attempting it, but you are the Master at correction::::::::::;;;

["SUCCESS"]

[Hard
Work
Daily
Leads always
to smashing success
For a highly ambitious man!]

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May 12, 2010 5:49 am re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Maya Mahant Bubble Bath

Hot

tired

grimy

bone weary.

Shower's warm needles

soothing between shoulder blades.

Water drums music against glass, drains fatigue away.

Scented foam of soapy bubbles amongst floating rose petals cleanses 'n rejuvenates.

Sarong wrapped in pristine-white-cloud-soft towel, new being steps out into her boudoir, soft satin and silk, straight into her lover's arms.


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May 12, 2010 6:12 am re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

dalip daswani
Hot!
Hot!
Melting
Sweltering
Heat! Global Warming!
Icy, my sweet popsicle!




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May 12, 2010 9:19 am re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Jack Huber Manohar, Maya and Dalip,

All are excellent Fibs. They make you feel like you are solving a puzzle, don't they?

My second example was missing a line, I just noticed. Here is the correct version:

Sail,
wind,
planing,
first dogwatch,
then, before the mast,
we let ourselves be cast away.

In this one, each line has a nautical term.

Thanks,

Jack


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May 12, 2010 9:51 pm re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Mari Laura Skjelvik
Sweet
Choc'
Cacao,
Applesauce
Dribbling down the cone,
Perfectly tasting summer's day.
Mondanely repelling as the frequent sound of rain.
Remembering with love and fondness such sweet sweet unforgettable holiday dreams.

MariLaura


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May 13, 2010 1:07 am re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Manohar Bhatia Jack,
Thank you very much for your valuable comments on my and also on others' fibs.
Jack, I was just getting this idea..........can a fib be written on a photo?My current project of photo-album, which is at hand,I am talking about.

Manohar Bhatia


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May 17, 2010 2:36 pm re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Stanley Shiel Fractals?


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May 17, 2010 2:53 pm re: re: re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Jack Huber No, just exponential (sort of). The actual equation for the Sequence is very long and somewhat beyond my math skills... Those 12th century mathematicians really were brilliant.

Jack


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May 20, 2010 9:11 am re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Susan Graves Oh I am a little behind

Pocono Seasons

Snow
melts
Whitewater
paddling time
Nascar fans return
Fall colors; snowflakes arrive soon

Susan Graves 2010

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May 20, 2010 9:44 am re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Jack Huber Susan, the only glitch I see is in line 3, which should be only 2 syllables. A whole year wrapped into just six lines, interesting theme.

Jack


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May 20, 2010 10:04 am re: re: re: re: F.O.R.M.- Fibonacci #

Susan Graves Thanks Jack I don;t count syllables very well

Pocono Seasons

Snow
melts
River
paddling time
Nascar fans return
Fall colors; snowflakes arrive soon

Susan Graves 2010



Susan
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